tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1885549900454136918.post4982721349625130075..comments2023-08-11T08:06:28.810-07:00Comments on Slobber And Spittle (Archive): Why We're Not "Winning" In Iraq - The Illustrated VersionCujo359http://www.blogger.com/profile/10385213658828021737noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1885549900454136918.post-23371677522551278032007-05-20T19:47:00.000-07:002007-05-20T19:47:00.000-07:00I suspect things may be in turmoil for a while in ...I suspect things may be in turmoil for a while in Iraq, too, op99. That's probably true whether we stay or we go. One thing's for sure - if we continue to try to act as a mediator while we're building this embassy and the other fortresses there we'll continue to be unsuccessful, because no one's going to trust us not to have our own agenda.<BR/><BR/>It took centuries for Wales and Scotland to get used to the idea of being part of what is now the U.K. Northern Ireland still isn't entirely resigned to the idea after many centuries. In more ways than one the U.K. is a cautionary tale when it comes to Iraq.Cujo359https://www.blogger.com/profile/10385213658828021737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1885549900454136918.post-88578081578271445412007-05-20T18:01:00.000-07:002007-05-20T18:01:00.000-07:00Let's not forget that the British Isles were in a ...Let's not forget that the British Isles were in a fairly continuous state of internal warfare for monarchical succession for at least two <I>millenia</I>, until the monarchy stabilized in the early 1700s with the House of Hanover. Do you see us in the Green Zone for 2000 years, George W?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1885549900454136918.post-5712458963392369632007-05-20T12:36:00.000-07:002007-05-20T12:36:00.000-07:00Plus, "occupation" takes longer to say than "war"....Plus, "occupation" takes longer to say than "war". And since we can't win an "occupation", well... Brian Williams and Charlie Gibson would surely get fired if they started to referring to it in truthful terms.<BR/><BR/>MSM = More Stupid MemesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1885549900454136918.post-42155514912930066742007-05-20T12:31:00.000-07:002007-05-20T12:31:00.000-07:00I think of it as an occupation that's going on in ...I think of it as an occupation that's going on in the midst of a civil war. So, in some sense, both terms seem accurate to me. Unfortunately, given the choice between those two terms, and the realities they represent, the news will generally choose the "safer" term.Cujo359https://www.blogger.com/profile/10385213658828021737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1885549900454136918.post-88514693692171148632007-05-20T11:45:00.000-07:002007-05-20T11:45:00.000-07:00Fantastic post, Cujo. It points to the embarassing...Fantastic post, Cujo. It points to the embarassingly shallow understanding of historical precedent that Bush and his cohorts have. And it also crystallizes why we should all be referring to this debacle as the "U.S. Occupation" rather than the "Iraq War" -- though it's hard to make that a habit when daily life in Iraq continues to demonstrate how the U.S. created the vacuum that made the current Iraqi Civil War a reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com